timestamped then.... isfs
(i hate it when people say this, but i'm saying it anyways) This is my opinion on the matter, take it or leave it.
I think Jason is the closest on how i believe. Everyone has a choice to make their life how they want, however, I truly believe that people do have a choice, even if people are "pre-destined" to go to heaven or go to hell.
Wes made a comment about being God's will to turn people astray, I disagree with this statement wholeheartedly, it is not God's will that anyone go to hell (or the place of eternal damnation, however you want to look at it). However, he knows now and has always known that it's going to happen. God does have control over everything, should it be his desire to do so, he could make the "anti-Christ" work for him, but he chooses not too, just as Jesus, at his crucifiction chose not to remove himself from the cross (i'm getting off topic...let me get back quickly before we have a world war III).
The anti-Christ, might be doing what he thinks is God's will, he might be intentionally doing what God does not want, whatever the case, he will lead thousands, hundreds of thousands, millions....lots of people away from God, and it will eventually be the end of the world. (I'm not up on my Revelation information, so I can't give any specifics above what I have given)
No...it isn't God's will for anyone to go to hell...but it is God's will for someone to be the anti-Christ...and he will lead millions astray...but the anti-Christ is only doing God's will which is layed out in his prophecy...I simply see it as the anti-Christ is doomed from the start...everyone has a choice yet everyone has a plan...the anti-Christ has no chance...
If the Devil apologized for being bad do you think God would let him back in Heaven?
I think he should be able to get back in if he said he was sorry to God. Sure, he's had a few wild milleniums but maybe he would like to settle down and move on with his life. I bet he just feels its pointless to talk to God about it so he keeps on being bad even though he doesnt want to be.
<font size="4" face="Tempus Sans ITC, Tahoma">certainly.Originally posted by GravyTrain:
(i hate it when people say this, but i'm saying it anyways) This is my opinion on the matter, take it or leave it.
just the same as i hope you take what i'm
about to say as my terrible opinion... [img]tongue.gif[/img]
<font size="4" face="Tempus Sans ITC, Tahoma">this negates choiceOriginally posted by GravyTrain:
Everyone has a choice to make their life how they want, however, I truly believe that people do have a choice, even if people are "pre-destined" to go to heaven or go to hell.
<font size="4" face="Tempus Sans ITC, Tahoma">jesus had an ace-in-the-hole....Originally posted by GravyTrain:
just as Jesus, at his crucifiction chose not to remove himself from the cross
if you knew you'd come back to life after being
put to death... how scary is present death?
<font size="4" face="Tempus Sans ITC, Tahoma">so basically what you are saying is....Originally posted by GravyTrain:
The anti-Christ, might be doing what he thinks is God's will, he might be intentionally doing what God does not want, whatever the case, he will lead thousands, hundreds of thousands, millions....lots of people away from God, and it will eventually be the end of the world.
while god knows everything that WILL happen...
he openly chooses not to interfere with choice,
and therefore, cannot be reliable to persuade
anything....
he'd rather just sit on his ass and 'unwillingly'
let people choose to receive the consequences
of their actions.
if this applies to people... why doesn't it
apply to an evil-producing god?
thats like saying a parent freely lets their
child roam in a yard full of possible dangers...
and when the child hurts themselves and is
laying there bleeding... the parent just shrugs
and says 'such is the consequences of your choices'
ISFS indeed...
if any parent would be CRUEL to behave in such
a manner... why isn't god?
God I love it when Shatzy copies and pastes *L* She get's down to business doesn't she*L* And Shatzy I did not in no way mean that as a bad thing, merely an observation in my tired, sleepy, frustrated state right now. I always look forward to all your copies and pastes because it means it's gonna be an interesting topic*L*
OK, my 2 cents and I'll keep this short (for once)
I don't really think about the AC. It scares me, as one big fear I have is the whole end of the world, armageddon the big end battle of good and evil. I'm scared of the end of the world and the rapture and all that. But I know it's only because I'm afraid of what I don't know. I'm afraid of what's on the other side, I'm afraid of what I have never experienced and never had to go through before, such as death.
I do KNOW the movie, "The Omen" about the AC scares the fucking shit outta me. And that music in that movie, who sits around thinking..."what kind of music can we come up with to make people shit a hershey factory in their drawers"? *L*
Hey I think ya'll just gave me an idea for a new topic. Thanks guys!
LMMFAO!!!! thats good to know [img]tongue.gif[/img]
i get the impression wes reads sinfest too.
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